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So I woke up this morning to find my Wii illuminated by the soft blue glow of the disc slot and had no clue why. So after powering it up I come to find out that Nintendo has a new channel for us, un-ironically titled "Nintendo Channel." I haven't had a ton of time to dig through it yet, but looks like it's filled with product info all about the new releases and upcoming Nintendo 1st & 3rd party titles. I did see a video with Miyamoto all about Wii Fit so that opens up some interesting possibilities in the future.
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Ugh, that's a massive fail on their part.
"Ugh, that’s a massive fail on their part."
Yes, this is marketing research for Nintendo to see what games people are playing (and what kind of TVs they are playing them on), disguised as a friendly service that recommends games you might also enjoy.
Why is this a failure? Is this not a similar feature of Xbox Live? Achievements and gamerscores and such? I don't have an Xbox, so I am just guessing from online heresay, but it sounds like the very essence of Xbox Live revolves around sharing your game-playing habits with the rest of the community. And you know MS uses that data for market research in much the same way Nintendo will.
So what's the difference? I can see not wanting spam messages, but data-sharing is a small price to pay for a DS demo station in your house.
That's my opinion, but I'm not surprised at your take on it.
Seems weird that you wouldn't want nintendo to know what games you're playing.
I have no problem with them getting marketing data, but withholding content that would make them sales to get it is just misguided on their part.
Case in point, I was excited this morning about it, but will now never use the service now that I know what they want out of me in return.
This is akin to EA requiring people to participate in marketing programs for weapons in Battlefield: Bad Company.
Don't opt in you don't get the content.
So, yeah, I agree that it is lame.
Can't they snake that data off my Wii anyway, without asking? Isn't that part of the initial licensing agreement you agree to when you first connect to WFC? Withholding content because you wouldn't agree to allow them to do something they are probably doing anyway seems kind of harsh. You have to WANT to let them snake your data.
Kind of like a silver or gold Live account. If you pay the price, you get the reward of online play. Live isn't withholding content from silver accounts. And MS still mines your data either way.
So is this a huge deal? Or just another reason to hate the Wii?
Honestly, I have no problem submitting my play data to them, as it's likely very similar to the data that gets sent to Microsoft. Keep in mind that with the Nintendo Channel, you can opt out of the marketing and still get full access to everything.
No, you have to enable data sharing to have access to DS demo downloads. But the question is...are they withholding content from people who opt out, or rewarding people who opt in?
"[. . .]are they withholding content from people who opt out, or rewarding people who opt in?"
The answer here is purely based on one's standpoint, as there's no "default" selection for opting in or out.
P.S.- I hope BBCode works in these posts; if not, ignore the attempt at making bold words. =)
Me, I'm a fanboy and Nintendo can do no wrong, so I don't mind opting in. But I have to wonder if requiring data sharing for DS demos is really a massive failure. I'm making analogies to Live, which is pretty popular on this site. Seems like being outraged over data sharing for DS demos is an over-reaction. The demos are a reward for opting in; lack of demos is not a punishment for opting out.
The point I disagree with you on is the demos being a reward for opting in. The reason I disagree is that the demos are marketed as a feature of the Nintendo Channel, NOT as a bonus for giving them information. Evidence of this is here:
http://www.nintendo.com/wii/channels/nintendochannel
From the page, "Using the DS Download Service, you can download game demos and additional game data on to your Nintendo DS. Choose a game demo, select 'DS Download Play' on your Nintendo DS, and moments later you’ll be playing the latest game demos."
If this wasn't meant to be a feature available by default from the service, they should have added a disclaimer which stated that it would only available if you allow Nintendo to gain access to your play data.
That comment right there is why I refuse to have a conversation with you about this.
Where were you when we were talking up Mario Kart?
Where were you when I tried to get a Mario Kart Tourny going?
Totally silent. It seems you only like to pop up and chime in when anyone says anything bad about Nintendo, and act like we're some how oppressing you cause I say something you don't like.
You troll for negativity, and just ignore anything that doesn't fit into your desire to argue with people that disagree with you.
This was an interesting topic to me. Your distaste over the data sharing seems rather reactionary, as if Nintendo is doing something evil that no other company does.
As for negative comments, I still recall a jab in a podcast about Smash Bros. fans not being allowed to stay up late enough for a midnight launch. It's all in good fun. I'm not attacking others for their console choice. Sorry you are so offended.
And Dan -- I've been having a really hard time restraining myself from making this comment, but I just have to. K - here goes.
Your stance on this subject is uniquely American.
There. I said it. Everyone appreciates their privacy, but Americans do so on a level that is completely foreign to me. I'm not trying to pick a fight, but since I really don't understand I have to ask -- why wouldn't you be willing to share your gaming data with Nintendo? What could it hurt?
While I totally agree that it's kind of bullshit that you can't get DS demos without doing it, I fail to see why you wouldn't. It's not like they're going to start printing Zuccarelli passports in Kyoto and send over an army of Japanese imposters to destroy your credit rating and get Christmas presents from your mom.
The only thing that will come of their collecting data is something rather beneficial for the industry -- by understanding the habits of a cross-section of the gaming public, Nintendo can better plan it's future to include our wants and needs. By opting out you're just putting more power in the hands of soccer moms and bargain-bin shoppers.
But I'm just a naive Canadian, so what do I know? :P
"Your stance on this subject is uniquely American."
Ask someone who lived in Soviet Russia about how he or she values privacy. =)
Lastly, after reading about what data actually gets sent to Nintendo, I'm glad to enable the option- the more people Nintendo sees with settings like "480p Widescreen," the better.