A gmail conversation between Dan and Jimmy (a Bitcast for the hearing impaired!)
Written by Dan Zuccarelli   
Thursday, 24 January 2008 08:27
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Whew, we end up killing time during the day with these gmail conversations and very rarely do we even think about posting them. But it ended up being pretty funny, and we spew hate in many many directions over the course of the discussion. Easily upset fanboys probably won't be happy...

Dan: I was looking for you online last night but the 360 showed you as "away" all night

Jimmy: hmmm... Hailea must have left it on like a mook. i didn't get home til 9, then we watched King of Kong.

Dan: I wanna see it, is it out for rent?

Jimmy: Comes out Tuesday, and it's FANTASTIC. Billy Mitchell and Twin Galaxies are pretty much frauds.

Dan: It never came out near here, so I've been waiting

Jimmy: Well worth owning. There's some I am 8-bit stuff in the special features too, including a short history of Donkey Kong cartoon done by one of the artists. Now if only I can find somewhere that sells it.

Dan: amazon?

Jimmy: yeah, probably go that route.

Dan: cool

Jimmy: yeah, the whole disc is pretty sweet sir. It really plays out like a movie, despite being a doc. Why were you looking for me anyways? weren't you playing shitty Burnout?

Dan: bah!

Jimmy: so did you have any interest in the new advance wars?

Dan: not really

Jimmy: k - I won't bore you then.

Dan: I had the gba one, I dug it but it wasn't a mind-blower...

Jimmy: no worries sir. it's a personal fav of mine, so i was just wondering who i might have to play online with.

Dan: Played No More Heroes last night

Jimmy: How was it? crap? I'll bet it was crap.

Dan: Actually it's pretty cool

Jimmy: Like, cold crap?

Dan: It's gonna get repetitive, but I had fun.

Jimmy: Enjoy mowing lawns.

Dan: Prolly the first Wii game I've played that didn't make me hate it cause of the controls

Jimmy: That's cool. how do the controls work?

Dan: You swing the sword using the A button and only swing the Wii mote for a finishing move

Jimmy: Lame. no offense, I like swinging shit around.

Dan: there's a few other moments of swinging the Wii-mote around like a jackass, but luckily it's not often... what can I say, I fucking hate it most times.

Jimmy: I'll pretend like you said that in reference to the game. [smile]

Dan: I'm not even sure why I still even own a Wii

Jimmy: i've felt that way a few times. i'm sure you could get a pretty penny for it on ebay.

Dan: You know what I say to myself whenever I play a new game on the Wii?

Jimmy: Last game?

Dan: "This would be a cool game with a real controller"

Jimmy: lol.. well then you probably don't need to own a wii that bad sir. Plus, the VC rocks.

Dan: I can't even remember the last time I bought a VC game

Jimmy: ahh.. i love the VC. Star Tropics is schweet.

Dan: The SMB Lost levels and Sin and Punishment where my best buys there

Jimmy: How did you get those? I thought they weren't on the North America VC?

Dan:: Anyway, I actually dig the over the top violence of No More Heroes, very Kill Bill. SMB:LL and S&P are Japanese releases... 1st time in NA on the VC

Jimmy: but they're available on the NA VC? (and lost levels was in all-stars, you dink)

Dan: I coulda swore it said 1st time in NA

Jimmy: You never owned Super Mario All-Stars on the SNES?

Dan: pfft...

Jimmy: Dude -- best versions of NES SMB games EVER.just sayin'.

Dan: Maybe I'll hook up the SNES and play it

Jimmy: Yeah, it's sweet dude. And lost levels is totally on there.

Dan: It'd be nice to play a nintendo game with a legitimate control scheme

Jimmy: lol.. import the snes pad for the VC!

Dan: I have the classic controller

Jimmy: yeah, but the SNES pad is +2 kitsch, which turns into +5 cool.

Dan: I've dumped enough cash into Wii controllers trying to make it fun, I'm done... That Wii Zapper was the final straw.

Jimmy: you should just mail me all your games and accessories. [smile]

Dan: um, ok?

[Time Passes]

Jimmy: Listen, you're not talking and I'm bored, so I'm gonna be random unless you entertain me dammit!

Dan: Sorry, can't help it... work... So, let me tell you all about No More Heroes

Jimmy: please do.

Dan: seriously, why the NMH hate?

Jimmy: it looks like crap, Killer 7 was crap, and everyone thinks its going to be brilliant just because Soda Pop 57 is involved -- a guy who hasn't actually made a good game. Slick visuals do not a good game make. If it did, we'd be playing Night Trap 10 by now.

Dan: lol, I actually dug the whole Assassin's guild aspect, plus the Beam Katana is pretty kick ass.

Jimmy: Wow! Assassin's Creed + Star Wars + the same photoshop filter? Where do I sign?? Also, the limited edition comes with a card that officially makes you a card carrying weirdo.

Dan: That the same card that comes with Cookies and Cream?

Jimmy: Hey! Don't knock my cookies and cream! It's the only game you can play with your girlfriend while she's giving you a handy!

Dan: Not true... Rez with the vib attachment, everyone wins! And just cause they both involve assassins doesn't mean they're the same

Jimmy: Nobody wins sir. Rez was garbage. there. i said it.

Dan: Fuck that, I loved that game

Jimmy: I know you did sir, and i totally disagree.

Dan: I think all that free health care and lack of gun violence has finally destroyed your mind [a knock against him being Canadian that obviously went over his head -Dan]

Jimmy: Ok. I think the conversation officially crashed because I'm actually confused now... thereby validating your theory.

Dan: lol, why don't you like REZ, seriously... it's not your typical game, granted... as an artistic thing you didn't enjoy it?

Jimmy: Because it's a generic on rails shooter that pretends to be cool by offering a laser show on par with the kind they have on Thursday nights at Six Flags? yeah. that's pretty much it. I mean, at least Space Giraffe had a space giraffe in it. What does Rez have?

Dan: I still love that I got you to buy Space Giraffe after all that hate you spewed about it

Jimmy: Bah.. I only bought it to spite you. same reason i bought Happy Scrappy Hero Pup.

Dan: Yea yea, whatever you need to tell yourself to be able to sleep at night

Jimmy: It's not what I tell you, it's what I tell your girl. And what I tell her is "shhhhh... Don't tell Dan."

also -- I tell her "I don't care what Dan likes in there, stay out of my rumpus room!"

Dan: Well, guess what? She does tell me... so there!

Jimmy: dammit!

Dan:So when are you picking up Burnout?

Jimmy: You mean to spite you?

Dan: That wall of hate started crumbling the second you saw me playing it... texting me asking how it was

Jimmy: Only a little sir... and it's not my fault they fucked it up. Burnout was a perfectly good franchise.

Dan: Agreed, but they needed to move it in a new direction... people can't just make the same game over and over unless it has Mario in it

Jimmy: bah.. Burnout always changed things up a little game after game and kept it fresh. This wasn't changing things up a little -- this was a complete makeover, and the series didn't need it. now it's garbage. if I wanted an open world, I'd open the front door.

Dan:perhaps... I do miss the crash mode, but I kinda dig how the game evolved.

Jimmy: nah, fuck it. evolution is for fish and monkeys. I'm gonna spend my hard earned $8 on Burnout Dominator instead thank you very much.

Dan: you're missing out

Jimmy: on what? frustration in trying to find some god damned highway exit when it should just be laid out in a track like before? Tell you what -- if you're still loving it in a few days when i can get distracted from advance wars, let me know and I MAY give it a rent.

Dan: bam!

Jimmy: Emeril? is that you?

you don't want me to kill again, do you?

so much blood.

alright sir -- I'm going to leave you with that and hop in the shower. I look forward to seeing how you edit this mess into a beautiful flower. back later.

Dan: btw, Amanda quite enjoyed watching me play TF2 over the weekend, I may have to marry that girl

Jimmy: I think so.

Dan: Maybe we should run this on the site...

Jimmy: Text Podcast!


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Comments (6)Add Comment
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written by rdaneel72, January 24, 2008
Some people are so hung up on coherant storylines and rewarding gameplay that they miss the point. Bashing Killer7 for is like bashing the Sex Pistols for being lousy musicians.

NMH will be mine this weekend. We have to support these quirky games or the entire industry would be like the Xbox360's library; nothing but sports, driving and FPSs.

And if you need reasons for owning a Wii, might I suggest:

Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BWii
Godfather: Blackhand Edition
SUPER MARIO GALAXY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ZACK and WIKI!!!!!!!!!!!!!(buyitdammit!!!)
Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles
Resident Evil 4 (if you haven't played it yet)
SUPER SMASH BROTHERS: BRAWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No More Heros!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
de Blob
SPORE
OKAMI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Endless Ocean
Fragile
Baroque
Trauma Center: Second Opinion or New Blood
Mario Kart
Star Wars: The Force Unleased
Dragon Quest Swords
FFCC: The Young King and the Long-Ass Subtitle
Bully (if you haven't played it yet)
Opoona
Disaster: Day of Crisis
Geometry Wars: Galaxies
Harvest Moon (now with real physical labor)
Moster Hunter 3
Tales of Symphonia
Fire Emblem
Sadness (ok, that one's a stretch)
Montser Lab
Mushroom Men
Red Steel 2 (might be good?!?!?)
NiGHTS: Journey of Dreams
King's Story
SAMBA DE AMIGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Rygar
Sam and Max (they're coming)
We Love Golf
ANIMAL CROSSING MMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Inevitable POKEMON MMO (what could be sweeter?)

That's a pretty good list off the top of my head. Plus, you got the awesome VC and FULL Gamecube backwards-compatibility so you can play Killer7 whenever you want.
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written by Dan Zuccarelli, January 24, 2008
Honestly, if you don't enjoy the Wii control scheme most of those games aren't interesting. And I played most of the ports (Sam and Max, RE4, Okami, Bully, etc)

I don't say it to be provoking or funny, I just don't dig the Wii controls... and I doubt that'll change.
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written by MC, January 24, 2008
The controller is something that is really putting me off the console... because the price is certainly thought provoking.
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written by Gedor, January 25, 2008
I'm looking forward to picking up the King of Kong next week.

Does anyone know any coverage of the Donkey Kong tournament hosted by Picturehouse at the 2007 San Diego Comic Con made it into the extras?
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written by Kevin Alexander, January 25, 2008
"Dan: Agreed, but they needed to move it in a new direction… people can’t just make the same game over and over unless it has Mario Link in it"

There, fixed that for you.
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written by TheBBPS.com » Gridrunner, July 24, 2008
[...] Space Giraffe. A lot actually. I’ve mentioned it numerous times in the bitcast and a few other locations as well. Jeff Minter is obviously a weirdo and the games he makes more often than not aren’t [...]

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